WFTDA Releases 2010 Tournament Seeding
Western Region | Eastern Region | North Central Region | South Central Region
West
1 Oly Rollers
2 Rocky Mountain Rollergirls
3 Denver Roller Dolls
4 Rose City Rollers
5 Rat City Rollergirls
6 B.ay A.rea D.erby Girls
7 Jet City Rollergirls
8 Duke City Derby
9 Tucson Roller Derby
10 Sacred City Derby Girls
11 Pikes Peak Derby Dames
12 Angel City Derby Girls
13 Arizona Roller Derby
14 Slaughter County Roller Vixens
15 Lava City Roller Dolls
16 Emerald City Rollergirls
17 Central Coast Roller Derby
18 Salt City Derby Girls
19 Bellingham Roller Betties
20 Pacific Roller Derby
21 Fabulous Sin City Rollergirls
22 FoCo Girls Gone Derby
The big news here is the entry of Jet City, jumping up from #12 in the region to #7 with some impressive wins over the North Central's Arch Rival (162-108) and their own region's Tucson (215-86). Tournament host Sacred City is the other team snagging their first tournament invite; they'll be entering with the lowest seed at #10. Pikes Peak and Angel City both made the Western Regionals last year but won't be coming back; Pikes stays at its Q1 ranking of #11, while Angel City continues slipping and now sits at #12.
Rocky Mountain switches slots with crosstown rivals Denver, as RMRG is nipping at regional #1 seed Oly with the #2 seed, and Denver takes over RMRG's previous ranking at #3.




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Did WFTDA change the bracket?
Last years saw the following:
1 vs. 6
2 vs. winner of 7 vs. 10
3 vs. winner of 8 vs. 9
4 vs. 5
This year seems to have:
1 vs. winner of 8 vs. 9
2 vs. winner of 7 vs. 10
3 vs. 6
4 vs. 5
I'm much happier for Montreal and Tampa now than I was going when I thought we were using last year's seeding.
Cheers,
t
Projections
I'm assuming that these are just projected brackets until the WFTDA actually announces the official word.
Seems like they fixed it.
The North Central regional site leads me to believe it's real:
http://www.thundaonthetundra.com/tournament-info/bout-schedule
Much better than last year's brackets.
Thank you thank you thank you
Everyone in WFTDA that made this happened and everyone that wrote their senators (or just posted on DNN) and complained about last year's horrible structure.
I will not be happy if the rug is pulled out from under me.
Yep
Not the 1/10, 2/9, 3/8, 4/7, 5/6 bracket I'd like to see, but still improved over last year.
What?
The bracket you suggest is non-obvious. Explain?
Sorry n8 I'm too impatient.
This makes for an odd 5 team quarter finals, let alone the 'what do we do with these three teams in the semi finals problem you gotta dig yourself out of.
THX*2
I agree, I'm glad we're back to a "normal" bracket structure and can avoid a rehash of last year's argument. Whew.
shame
SWEET! Potential Denver v Rocky rematch!
It’s a shame that Rose OR Rat may attend Nationals but no chance of both.
WFTDA needs a Wildcard slot. I’m not saying this so I can once again drunkenly advocate for San Diego, I’m saying this because a “playoff” structure that allows for, without naming names, some teams to compete over either of those two is, quite frankly, an abortion. Years ago when the current structure was put into place people voiced concerns over the regions and talent being unevenly distributed and those concerns were shushed by arguments that it would eventually even out but the high level of competition for these few regional playoff slots has only magnified the divisions.
Any sports league subdivided
Any sports league subdivided into divisions/conferences/whatever ((which is pretty much all of them)) is going to periodically run into stretches where worthy teams from conference/division X are not going to make it to the playoffs, while less-worthy teams from weaker conference/division Y do ((case in point: The NBA in the last few years, where decent teams from the tougher Western Conference routinely fail to make the cut for the playoffs, while clearly lesser teams wind up making the playoffs in the softer East)). The value proposition here ((note: I have absolutely NO idea what "value proposition" actually means, but i thought it seemed like a good phrase to use)) is whether or not the good that comes from regioning -- i.e. intensified regional rivalries, increased feeling of peer community, etc. -- is enough to offset the negative repercussions, like some great teams being shut out from nationals. I think it probably is, but, then again, i live in the North Central region, which has had the same trio of regional powerhouses in its top three since its inception.
The idea of a Wild Card berth for Nationals is a pretty flawed one. Winning at Regionals wouldn't have a hell of a lot of luster if teams knew they were bound for Nationals win or lose because of a high regular season ranking.
Since i hate any tournament structure where the number of teams involved isn't a power of two anyway, perhaps a bit of the edge could be taken off derbydom's collective anguish by expanding the number of teams in the Nationals tournament to sixteen total. That would at least reduce the odds of a "deserving" team winding up on the outside looking in for Nationals. Of course, this also increases the odds of a "less deserving" team making it into Nationals, thus might serve to piss the West off even further.
Another possible solution is to re-draw the regional boundaries: Move the Colorado teams to the South Central region. Or move 'em to the North Central. Or, heck, split 'em up between the North and the South, see what i care. Any way you slice it, that reduces the logjam of "worthy" teams in the West, and increases the amount of "worthy" teams in other regions. The teams in the South/North won't go for it, but, i dunno, them's the breaks! Trouble is, this approach is symptomatic, and is based on the ((almost surely incorrect)) assumption that the balance of power will remain at its current status quo in perpetuity; alleviating a logjam in the West might just be building a future logjam in the South or North.
Or, the WFTDA could just do what the NCAA does for the four regions of their basketball tournaments: Assign seedings and regions after the post-season participants are known. That approach is rife with geographic weirdness -- like a team from the east coast playing in the western bracket, etc. -- but, if nothing else, it does do a good job of equitably distributing teams across four regions of the country ((in their case East, West, Midwest and South)). But this approach, of course, kind of undermines the point of divisioning.
I kind of forgot where i was going with this post. In any event, i'm sure something or another is an outrage!
Agreed, with a wrinkle
I like the idea of 16 teams in the Championship round, but with a variation to support the world wide nature of derby. 12 teams get in the way they currently do, three from each regional playoff. The winner of a European playoff and an Oceana playoff get an invite also. Yes, one from each region seems unfair, but recognizes the current distribution of teams, relative skill and experience levels and travel costs. As derby progresses in these areas the structure would have to change.
The last two slots are wildcards, the pool being limited to the 4 fourth place teams from the U.S. regional playoffs. A WFTDA committee would decide which two made it, based on the relative performance during the regular season and the playoff. I'd stay away from formulas and statistical models and just go with a vote of the members. Once the decision was announced, a day or two after the last playoff, the members of the committee would probably need to be entered into the Witness Relocation program .
Heated words would fly on this and other outlets; stressing strength of schedule, point differential and, dare I say it, triangulation. Some would be outraged, others merely angry and we would all have something to talk about in the weeks between the anouncement of the wildcards and the championship, besides whether Oly or Gotham was going to win the Hydra.
I'd also like to see a second track at the championships so that consolation bouts could be accommodated and allow ranking beyond teams one through four. This would give the early round losing teams something more to come all that way for than just one game. Yes, that adds costs and complicates venue selection, but its my fantasy and I'm sticking to it.
I want whatever the person who made these brackets is drinking!
Rat & Rose playing each other for their opening game? Are you freaking kidding me? There is no way they should be on the same side of the bracket in the West. That is like putting Kentucky & Duke against each other in the opening of the NCAA tourney.. you just don't do it! Same for putting MAD & North Star against each other. There should be cases where you need to juryrig the brackets so teams that close to eash other don't play in the opening rounds. If this is the case lets make it easy:
West - Rat vs Rose in the very opening. Winner plays Oly. Everyone else plays each other & the winner of that plays the winner of Denver vs Rocky.
North Central - Despite the MAD/North Star jobbing it looks fairly balanced (as far as I can tell). But even if you switched Cincy to another bracket to break up MAD/NS, you still have them playing another WI team: Brew City. Still not the worst I have seen in bracket making.
South Central: Actually I like this one. Altlanta doesn't play Tampa until the 3rd round so we can see what a slightly fresher TBDD can do. A teetering Texas team might get by Dallas. If so then it will be up to the bottom half of the bracket to see if they can knock off a out-of-sorts Texecutioners squad. Should Dallas beat Texas, all bets are off who wins this one.
East - Go ahead & pencil Philly vs Gotham for the finals with Boston vs Charm for 3rd (Hint: bring baked beans to Nationals and don't bother to brush up on your French for the pivot line).
So this started as a rant & ended as a prediction for Regionals. I still say break up teams that are located so close together (and so highly ranked). I know it would cost less well sponsored team dearly but perhaps maybe the NCAA example is the way to go.
P.S. - Let one non-WFTDA team in such as, I dunno, San Diego. It would certanily spice things up.
* Pround member of a Southeastern US derby team *
Confused.
Rat & Rose playing each other for their opening game? Are you freaking kidding me? There is no way they should be on the same side of the bracket in the West.
Ok, and then ...
There should be cases where you need to juryrig the brackets so teams that close to eash other don't play in the opening rounds. If this is the case lets make it easy:
West - Rat vs Rose in the very opening. Winner plays Oly. Everyone else plays each other & the winner of that plays the winner of Denver vs Rocky.
So your solution to the problem of having Rat play Rose in their opening game is ... to have Rat play Rose in their opening game?
Also, in regards to Texas' chances in the South Central tournament, here is a Texas Fun Fact I just researched:
Since January 2009, the average outcome when Texas plays in their region is a 217 point win for Texas. The average outcome when Texas plays out of region is a 24 point loss for Texas. Granted, Texas has been playing mostly the very best in their inter-regional play, and schedules a greater than average amount of clear mismatches to help their area teams grow, but that's a pretty striking stat - Texas' #1 slot in their region seems much much more secure than any of the other three.
Aww, crap. Don't confuse me with your logic.
Also, in regards to Texas' chances in the South Central tournament, here is a Texas Fun Fact I just researched:
Since January 2009, the average outcome when Texas plays in their region is a 217 point win for Texas. The average outcome when Texas plays out of region is a 24 point loss for Texas. Texas' #1 slot in their region seems much much more secure than any of the other three.
Those don't sound like "fun facts" at all.
Here's some Atlanta vs TXRG "slightly less fun facts":
The first time we ever played TX we scored one single point. One. (In a 10 minute period, gah.)
Three years later, the second time we played TX we scored 26 points.
So if our improval rate stays the same and if we earn the opportunity this year to play TXRG for a third time, we should score like 600 points. Right?
Statistics deathmatch!
The first time we ever played TX we scored one single point. One. (In a 10 minute period, gah.) Three years later, the second time we played TX we scored 26 points. So if our improval rate stays the same and if we earn the opportunity this year to play TXRG for a third time, we should score like 600 points. Right?
You should score 36 points. Extrapolating that you should have scored 6 points in the first game if it had been full length, and you did 4.3 times as well three years later, but it would only be one year since that previous matchup if you faced them this year, meaning that you should only do 1.4 times as well. 1.4 x 26 = 36.4.
...And yes, I realize your point was that stats are not perfect predictors of future performance, and I don't actually expect Atlanta to score 36.4 points in their next meeting with Texas, so your point actually stands. I just felt like being a jerkface :)
ouch.
fine. I hate math. You win the statistics deathmatch.
I just felt like being a jerkface :)
I know the feeling.
Math is overrated.
I didn't use math in what I said about Texas. I just used what I saw from watching Texas play this year. They just don't look like the team we all used to love & fear on the track. I know they have had people move, retire, get hurt, etc. I would say they are in a "slight" rebuilding phase but I wouldn't count them out by any means. Would you count out a 9-7 Colts team in the playoffs? No, of course not. But you would say that they aren't the team they normally are and now would be one of your best chances to pick them off while they are down a bit.
Late night posting is not your friend....
Actually when I made the West regional bracket I was basically being sarcastic about the whole thing. A better solution would to be have the feild expand to 12 teams. Move Rose to an opening bout vs #11, winner plays Denver. Move B.A.D. to an opening bout vs #12, winner plays Rat City. Thus both Rat & Rose are on seperate parts of the bracket & wouldn't play eash other unless they both make the finals (highly unlikely given the buzzsaws that are Oly & Rocky) and we all get more derby.
I think they were drinking water.
This is the standard as far as seedings and brackets. It is the most widely used and accepted format...for a reason. If you disagree with the matchups as far as who is on who's side of the bracket, you're disagreement should be with the regional rankings.
I think this is another step forward for the sport we all love.
IT'S NOT AN OUTRAGE, I TELL YOU!!!
Same for putting MAD & North Star against each other.
You're saying that North Star vs. Madison is a prohibitively "main eventy" type bout, with an outcome too close to reasonably predict? I think i want some of what *you're* drinking.
They aren't a main event but a good undercard
Why not have it so they have a chance to meet in the 9th or 10th game? That way you have a good old fashion grudge match in the semi-finals which would be highly entertaining. But you could say that even more should Minnesota & North Star make it to Bout #10 or MAD vs Brew in Bout #17 (Don't think that will happen but you never know).
Ranking are what rankings are. Cold statistical placements that don't have feelings or thoughts. Ultimately they are fair in that you end up where you are based on how you played. They just gives us, the fans of a sport, something to argue about.
The cross-state bout opportunities are plentiful.
Dependent, as Bonnie says, on acceptance of invitations:
Minnesota and the North Stars can play either in the semi-finals (Game 10) or in Game 12, where each team has lost one and won one (as a resident of the Twin Cities, I know where I'd rather see them play...).
Similarly, BCB and Madison have several shots to play together, whether the finals, third-place, or fifth place.
But the North Central will be all kinds of fun for spectators, whether it's the nine teams looking for the first win against Windy in the North Central, cross-state bouts, or Omaha and Naptown getting their first shot at Nationals.
So the objective of
So the objective of tournament scheduling should be to make sure nothing good happens the first day? Doesn't that happen more often than you'd like it to anyway?
No, not at all
I lost any chance I had of making an argument about this the minute I started the original comment. I looked at it as a fan of both Rat & Rose and thought it was sad they had to play each otherin their first bout of the tournament. But that is because of where they are ranked and such is life. Also, you are correct in that a lot of times there are a number of one-sided games in these sort of things the first day.
Southern Slam
This happened at the Great Southern Slam - each group was made up of a highly experienced team, a "mediocre" team (their words) and a newbie team (some who had never bouted before!).
It meant that the first round was pretty much a slaughter. My group was made up of SSRG (Sun State Roller Girls), TVRD (Towns Villains Roller Derby) and WIRD (Wollongong Illawarra Roller Derby). I'm a Brisbane City Roller Girl but played for TVRD to help with numbers. We were considered the newbie team, WIRD was in the middle, and SSRG was the machine who absolutely murdered us. I think the final score of our game against them was 163 to 7. WIRD didn't do much better against them, I think they managed 19.
This was pretty much what happened the whole first day. Slaughters all round. We weren't complaining - it was one hell of a learning experience to play SSRG (we lovingly tagged them the "Cylons", since they all seemed to communicate mentally, as if they were wired in to one another... i still have my suspicions!!) and we actually ended up deafeating WIRD... I know a lot of the newer teams were disappointed that we knew we had no chance the second we saw the schedule, but I suppose if you want a good grand final, you have to set it up properly.
And for anyone who saw SSRG vs VRDL, well, we sure got a good grand final! :)
I'm somewhat of a fan of the
I'm somewhat of a fan of the one-sided games - not as a supporter of SSRG, but as a supporter of...equal opportunity. A tournament that has a lot of one sided games on the first day is of HUGE benefit, especially for the inexperienced teams.
Are we meant to create a 'kiddie-pool' for the inexperienced leagues? Playing against a huge, well-established league not only gives them an idea of how far they have to go, it gives them an idea of *what they can do*. It's not about coming out disheartened, it's about coming out thinking wow, these girls were just like us once. It's about thinking 'what did they do, way back when - how can we do it *better*?'. It's about building a five year plan to be the best in the country, and having a team-to-beat to target that plan at, and getting that plan truly ingrained in the entire team.
I think the official tournament set-up is fine, and I think one sided games are fine. For some fun, casual, hit-and-giggle roller derby to build up your experience, play a challenge bout! There are lots! For inspiration - GET YOUR ARSE KICKED.
Absolutely!
Totally agree 100% - and that's why we came out of the SSRG bout dancing, laughing and singing! Because it was the BEST ASS KICKING we had ever received. We had a blast, and you better believe it was the most inspiring bout we had ever played.
The challenge bouts were a hell of a lot of fun, but I think I learned the most from sitting behind that 2 man SSRG wall, lap after lap after lap!
You may as well throw the less experienced girls in the deep end right away - that way we're being given a compliment... "You are good enough to play with the big kids!" - equal opportunity for sure. :)
Exactly! I have literally
Exactly! I have literally *just* joined SSRG as a derby skater, and I'm sitting at star 1 at the moment, but I've been watching them for years, and I'm best friends with one of their bouters...I'm so proud of my girls. They earned it, and now they get to pass it on, and if that's not something incredible I don't know what is.
Of course, as a star 1, I'm now of the opinion that in order to really bring up the inexperienced girls, you either throw them in the deep end - or you throw them into a public skate with MANY children. Either way they will learn 'fast', and they will learn 'reflexes'. Playing with the big kids is just like playing with the small kids :P
They're not the rivals you think.
Meaning, North Star and Madison don't play each other all the time, despite their proximity. I think they've only played each other once previously. North Star has played Brew City more often than any other Wisconsin league (three times, IIRC). Now Minnesota, we've played Madison a total of five times.
That said, I still don't think that teams should not play each other if that's where the math puts them. Setting up the numbers (exactly the same for all four regions), then plugging in the teams when they've been ranked is the only way to make it fair. If a couple teams who often play each other end up playing each other in their first game of a tournament, so be it. That's the fair way to do it.
R U Kidding me
P.S. - Let one non-WFTDA team in such as, I dunno, San Diego. It would certanily spice things up.
* Pround member of a Southeastern US derby team *
Really???? This may not be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard, but it's close !! Nobody jumped on this. Ok, I will....While & fully respect SanDiego, they are not a WFTDA team. While they could beat many teams in these brackets, they are not a WFTDA team. THIS IS THE WFTDA CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!
Yes, I do know they aren't WFTDA
I guess wishful thinking isn't allowed anymore. San Diego not being a WFTDA at this point is "dead horse meet stick". They aren't and probably never will be for any forseeable future. Yes, it is the WTFDA Championship for those that were in the top 3 of each WFTDA Regionals tournament, which is only open to the top 10 ranked WFTDA member league in each region. For WFTDA by WFTDA, etc,etc.
But just for giggles, how cool would it be if they could be in it somehow? Why not have one slot open for a "Best of the Rest" non-WFTDA team. Hold a tournament for the best non-WFTDA teams and the winner of that gets an invite to the championships. Maybe make it a play-in bout where they face the lowest ranked team from the weakest region in the Championships.
OK, I'm done with this now. I suppose next I will find out a Pegacorn isn't real either.
i agree
i actually think that is genius! i think wftda is great and all for what it is, but i do think a team like san diego deserves the same shot at a national tourney as any team in wftda. good luck san diego. i hate that you ladies aren't able to be involved with the "wftda" stuff.
Where does it end?
Should we let the penis danglin' merby teams compete too?
Anyone has the ability to be a WFTDA team, you just have to meet the requirements. If you don't then you can't participate.
It's like saying U2 should be allowed to enter a heavy metal competition.
Where does it end?
It's like saying U2 should be allowed to enter a heavy metal competition.
It's like saying the local high school football team should be allowed to get into the Super Bowl.
I don't think that's a fair
I don't think that's a fair comparison. But it's like saying that manchester united should play for the MLS cup.
all the participants in the wftda tournaments are dues paying members that must meet certain requirements administratively and competitively.
Say what?
You have no idea how much it makes my day that someone dropped a soccer reference on DNN. :)
That and it's a great analogy.
d'oh!
Should we let the penis danglin' merby teams compete too?
Anyone has the ability to be a WFTDA team, you just have to meet the requirements. If you don't then you can't participate.
It's like saying U2 should be allowed to enter a heavy metal competition.
It's like Jethro Tull winning the heavy Metal grammy award...Oh, Wait!!!
that happened.
Damn it!
Penis dangling merby? That
Penis dangling merby? That sounds dangerous.
yes.
Should we let the penis danglin' merby teams compete too?
Anyone has the ability to be a WFTDA team, you just have to meet the requirements. If you don't then you can't participate.
I won't be happy until my dog has a chance to compete. Me, a bunch of dudes on hormones, and my dog are going to start a team in a sandwich region and take on all a yall!!! then, and only then, will the West crumble.
speaking for myself, not my team
It would be awesome to get in WFTDA & play in Westerns, but at this point, we haven't beaten teams that probably won't make it out of Westerns, so you guys joking about us as a wildcard, ha ha, oh well.
BUT at least this season we've booked really great teams so even without playing in the tourneys, we still get to play some awesome amazing teams like Gotham, Rocky and more! So it works out. Plus we get to live in San Diego and so ultimately, we win. When you're shoveling snow or bumming on the humidity we'll be walking our backpack chairs to the beach for beers after practice.
A bunch of us are going to the tournaments and we CAN'T WAIT. GO BADG! GO ROCKY! I am such a fan girl I don't even know who I want to win anymore.
Ivanna
San Diego
You forgot Poland!
I like the idea of 16 teams in the Championship round, but with a variation to support the world wide nature of derby. 12 teams get in the way they currently do, three from each regional playoff. The winner of a European playoff and an Oceana playoff get an invite also.
Errr um, I mean "You forgot Canadia!"
This is an outrage, eh? I hope they bring down ketchup chips and poutine to WFTDA Championships.
No on the poutine!
It's not good reheated.
If my tailgating experience has taught me anything...
...it's that you *can* make poutine using a grill in a parking lot. Bring on the poutine!
Oceania is at war with
Oceania is at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
Sorry. Had to be said.
I don't think so.
WFTDA needs a Wildcard slot. I’m not saying this so I can once again drunkenly advocate for San Diego, I’m saying this because a “playoff” structure that allows for, without naming names, some teams to compete over either of those two is, quite frankly, an abortion. Years ago when the current structure was put into place people voiced concerns over the regions and talent being unevenly distributed and those concerns were shushed by arguments that it would eventually even out but the high level of competition for these few regional playoff slots has only magnified the divisions.
I am seeing the competitive level in at least one of the two "other regions" REALLY picking up this year. Not just one or two teams getting better, but several teams picking up the pace.
As interesting as that one region's playoffs will be this year, there's another that I'll be watching online very closely. Will its winners be the powerhouses at Championships? Perhaps not, but I definitely see things improving there. I can also see the increased competitiveness in the region making future improvements in gameplay necessary to survive there. The rising tide floats all boats, in a non-economic sense.
When WFTDA had two regions, the East was not taken very seriously. And then 2008 happened. The East teams took three of the top four slots and the West kinda went flat. After 2009 added two more regions, East wasn't so dominant at all.
Another thing to think, where is WFTDA growing fastest? Where is it likely to grow fastest in the future? At some point, there may be a simple imbalance of leagues in each region. Perhaps some states on the borders may hop into a different region.
And then there's the two (and eventually three) new regions.
mescal
I am seeing the competitive level in at least one of the two "other regions" REALLY picking up this year. Not just one or two teams getting better, but several teams picking up the pace.... I can also see the increased competitiveness in the region making future improvements in gameplay necessary to survive there. The rising tide floats all boats, in a non-economic sense.
Nationals isn't a time for encouraging burgeoning talent. it's a place where the very best go to kill or be killed. or should be. i know there's always been outliers, but it seems like this year there will be more of an imbalance than usual (imbalanace being teams that should be there but aren't, and teams that are there but shouldn't be).
Another thing to think, where is WFTDA growing fastest? Where is it likely to grow fastest in the future? At some point, there may be a simple imbalance of leagues in each region. Perhaps some states on the borders may hop into a different region.
And then there's the two (and eventually three) new regions.
All I'm saying is, when is Washington ever lumped in the same region as, say, New Mexico? The 2 corners of the west region are 1,500 miles apart. I agree, the tournament brackets are fine. I want to know where the region-makers got their stash of mescal. I mean, not even taking individual league experience/talent into account, the west is pratically half the country.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_U9EhhW2bjPU/SXq_cWNmDzI/AAAAAAAAIXs/-1SUVHq4lA...
I enjoyed that Mescal very much...
Honestly, when the regions were broken out, that was the most logical division even though it was massive geographically, there just weren't that many teams per square mile as other areas. The Southwest is so extremely spread out, and the Pacific Northwest is extremely dense. It makes for a really difficult break out and leaves a lot of teams with a long way to go to play when they all pay their own way. And Denvers (all three of you in that general vicinity) where do you get off being nowhere near anyone besides each other. That half of the country had approximately 1/4 of the number of teams that the rest of the country had. Noted that the growth has been great out there and we are probably getting close to a regional restructuring threshold of some kind.
Denvers?
And Denvers (all three of you in that general vicinity) where do you get off being nowhere near anyone besides each other. That half of the country had approximately 1/4 of the number of teams that the rest of the country had.
[scheming] hmmm, how about we make a Denver region, and send the top 3 leagues to Nationals? Then the rest of the West Region can send THEIR top 3 too?
Works for me! And, I suspect, Oly, RMRG, Rose, Rat, AND Bay Area.... :)
you are correct, it has been
you are correct, it has been shuffled a bit.
I have a feeling the Western
I have a feeling the Western division is going to be uber competitive for a long time. Rat and Rose have two of the best jr derby leagues in the nation, which will surely breed all-star competitors for Rat and Rose for a long time. Olympia is a speed skating commune. Denver and Rocky train at a mile high and the Bay Area skaters have started injecting our blood with gold.
The West will be tough forever and every skater here will be better for it. Don't be jealous!
rat and rose
very insightful, they are training the future stars of derby!
Actually, they are training them for...
I have a feeling the Western division is going to be uber competitive for a long time. Rat and Rose have two of the best jr derby leagues in the nation, which will surely breed all-star competitors for Rat and Rose for a long time.
Actually, they are training them for US! My city has a number of great colleges. Just like Tucson Derby Brats (and TRD) trained Luce Bandit for TXRG, Rose City Rosebuds and Rat City's junior league will probably be training their kids to skate here in Rochester. Because snowy is just plain more fun than rainy, ya know?
Somebody owes my city SOMETHING for losing Bloody Mary to TXRG and Mindianapolis 500 to y'all before our league even got started. Just sayin'.
Eh hehehe...hehehahaHAHA! :p
Eh hehehe...hehehahaHAHA! :p
Cross the Border
The canucks are crossing the border for a shot at the championship for the first time. So very exciting.
These brackets are not official...
On behalf of the WFTDA, I just wanted to remind everyone that these brackets are not official until all leagues have accepted their invites. The official tournament brackets will be available at WFTDA.com in the coming weeks.
Thanks!
Bonnie Thunders
WFTDA Tournaments Committee Co-Chair
Yes, but...
Is the tournament format official? As in 1 vs 8/9, 2 vs 7/10?
On behalf of me,
y'all are a bunch of nerds.
The Tournaments Committee is
The Tournaments Committee is still looking over the brackets posted here on DNN. It's important to remember team names could change due to invitation declinations. One mistake I see in the consolation bracket is Game 14 should be loser of game 11 vs loser of game 12; DNN has Game 14 as loser of game 11 vs loser of game 5.
Yes to: As in 1 vs 8/9, 2 vs 7/10?
looking forward to crunch time
I'm happy to see the regional brackets released, no real suprises here; about the only wild cards in the mix will be those turning down their regional invites and making the way for unknown talent; other then that it looks all good. I look forward to a PRG vs. GGRD in the East Regional final!!! Go Philly!!!
Montreal vs. Boston and Brewcity vs. Northstar/Madison
*Montreal against Boston... That will be an interesting bout. I will be wearing my neon yellow paint splat design Varnet shirt in support of the New Skids that day.
**Also - I love seeing North Star take on Madison. These two teams met last year and played outside. It was a fun bout to watch. The 2nd half of that bout was a lot closer than the first. But we all know those games.
I was at the North Star vs. Brewcity game and can tell you that Brewcity is on a mission and should NOT be considered an underdog in just about any game going into regionals. Their skaters are well oiled machines and their coach has one of the best 'derby brains' I have seen.
Finalized
From WFTDA's announcement, it would appear that every league was able to accept their invitation this year. Awesome!
And I want to point out how much I love the logo for Amber Waves of Pain.
outfit playing their 1st wftda game on sat!!
i am so proud of my girls, its been a long time coming for the outfit and wftda! i can't wait to see what happens on sat against naptown for the outfits first but certainly not the last wftda game. go outfit!! top 25 power rankings here we come!!
OUT! FIT! OUT! FIT! OUT! FIT!
OUT! FIT! OUT! FIT! OUT! FIT! OUT! FIT!
it's actually not a national
it's actually not a national title.